On Sunday, July 10, Time Magazine posted a book review of sorts by Rana Foroohar. “Driven off the Road by M.B.A.s” is really a riff on Bob Lutz’s new book, Car Guys vs. Bean Counters: The Battle for the Soul of American Business. Lutz should know something about his topic since he spent a forty-seven year career in the halls of power at Ford, BMW, Chrysler and GM.
Lutz’s argument is not new, and I should say here that I haven’t read the book. But I did read David Halberstam’s magisterial book in the 1980s, The Reckoning, which makes the same argument. In many ways, Lutz is Halberstam redux.
The argument of each book can be reduced to this: engineers build cars (or any other product) with the customer in mind. They don’t worry about price and cost and they persist in the belief that as Emerson said a long time ago, if you build a better mouse trap, the world will beat a path to your door. It’s pure Americana.
Lutz, Halberstam and loads of others aver that the MBA grads focus on the balance sheet with the customer as an afterthought. Lutz has his share of myopic management-by-balance-sheet examples, which you can find in the review and also in the book to make the point.
The review dutifully summarizes how we got into this position, citing the rise of World War Two Wiz Kids, led by Robert McNamara, who made that war more efficient — whatever that means — before moving on to Ford and the Defense Department under Kennedy and Johnson. In each successive endeavor the Wiz Kids were less successful as the penultimate posting at DOD and Vietnam amply demonstrate.
The article takes an interesting turn riffing again off a line Lutz puts forward in his book: “Shoemakers should be run by shoe guys, and software firms by software guys.” This is the whole rationale for CRM and the preceding paragraph in the article is worth quoting in full:
“It’s interesting to note that the one area of the U.S. economy that’s adding jobs and increasing productivity and wealth is also the one that is the most relentlessly product- and consumer-focused: Silicon Valley. The company off Highway 101 that best illustrates this point is, of course, Apple. The only time Apple ever lost the plot was when it put the M.B.A.s in charge. As long as college dropout Steve Jobs is in the driver’s seat, customers (and shareholders) are happy.
I might add that I know a lot of Harvard and other top school MBAs in the Valley too. So it’s not simply having the degree, there’s something about the culture as well. However, the point is that the list of dropout billionaires who became wildly successful by asking simple questions like “What does the customer want?” is long and still growing. Let me add Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg.
Back to the rationale for CRM. We who are deeply involved in CRM may occasionally take it for granted that the world thinks like us but if Lutz and his acolytes are to be taken seriously, we must be mistaken in our belief. Now and then when trying to distill CRM and especially social CRM — which I think have become one — I am perplexed because I think some of what we say and do should be common sense. We should have learned at home or in grade school about how to treat other people, how to empathize and understand their needs.
Social media changed much about CRM because in its earliest incarnations even CRM had a few nervous moments. Recall that when it was first introduced CRM was largely a tool for capturing data so that managers (many with MBA’s) could apply their balance sheet logic in an effort to deal with customers — or perhaps markets.
The social revolution started with customers not vendors and the empowered customer finally got the leverage needed to deal with the Wiz Kids on something like an equal footing. It may seem strange to those of us who are on the front lines of CRM that the rest of the world might not think like us, but we all have a lot of work left to do.
Lutz may be right in his assessment that software firms should be run by software guys, and by extension car guys should run car companies. But the real context, I think is cultural. Lutz and Halberstam have documented a culture shift in business and one that has a long trajectory. Social CRM is an attempt to rectify some parts of that shift but I doubt we’ll ever go back to the way things were. With modern technology and perhaps the enlightenment that comes from being proven wrong, perhaps we can fashion a new culture that is both financially responsible and customer centric.
(Cross-posted @ Beagle Research, LLC.)
Good article, and sounds like an interesting book. Still, I wonder, do we need social CRM (a new tool that could be years away), or just greater use of Market research. Would the bean counting MBA’s not be appeased by statistically sound surveys that capture the voice of ALl custromers (fans, non-fans, users, potentials, social-tweeters, and snail-mail-technophobes).
Hi Roger,
Thanks for reading and writing! SocialCRM is really here today so there’s not much waiting to be done. At any rate the simplified diametric opposition of discussion of “car guys vs. bean counters” is much larger than purely what customers want or statistically sound surveys. There’s a palpable difference in these two ideas as corporate cultures and I think the evidence, as Lutz might claim, is pointing out that the purely financial approach is a failure.
Thanks,
Denis
Greetings Denis:
I think your last line summed things up nicely: “financially responsible and customer centric.”
Everyone is better off when a company focuses on providing real value the customer wants and needs while balancing customer desires with sound business practices that support sustainable business models.
The problem as I see it is that most of the people who are declaring their expertise and defining when and why companies need to engage in social media have little consideration for the “financially responsible” part.
Social media absolutely must be considered in virtually all businesses, but buyers need to carefully assess their organization’s situation and not be manipulated by the pervasive hype.
Bob Warfield’s recent post entitled “Some Social Media is Toxic to Productivity: Google+, Twitter, and Facebook” http://t.co/xuomPWy is an interesting read that raises the question on when and why companies should allow staff access to social networks.
Chuck
Hi Chuck,
Totally agree. Social, like any new technology I’ve covered seems to have the wow factor preceding the here’s what we can do with it. I guess that’s just part of life in the fast lane but smart types like you will always see through the hype to find value. It’s always good to see the hype die down and the real adoption begin.
Denis
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